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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:06 pm 
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First name: Ray
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I'm not totally satisfied with the dovetail joint on my arch top. Although it feels snug and I cannot find obvious gaps, I'm tempted to use BSI Insta-Cure gap filling medium for additional security. It this point, I'm starting to wish I had selected a bolt-on joint but I'm now committed. It has worked find for my violins and a cello but this is my first guitar.

Any experience on this product as the cap-filler/glue?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:46 pm 
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How removable is that material? I believe the preferred method for tightening up the neck on a dovetail would be to glue in veneer shims on the sides of the dovetail. I like to use hot hide glue for that type of joint.



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:42 pm 
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I would never us ca in a joint that I might need to remove in the future. There a better glues for that.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:39 pm 
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Ray, don't use CA on a neck joint. That's what the Chinese are doing, and repair guys HATE them. As for me, it's a fervent and abiding hate. Do it right - shim it, whatever - make it fit. Now is not the time to take the easy way out.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:34 pm 
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you are way overthinking this. If the neck feels snug its will be fine. The joint is under compression a bolt on neck relies on the fastener. Once the glue is used that will fill some gaps . After having pulled over a 1000 necks it is surprising what will hold together.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:16 pm 
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Here is a factory guitar with what looks like bondo in the dovetail.

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Don't ever do this.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:27 pm 
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The guys nailed it, neck joints need to be serviceable meaning we can take them apart in the future.


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