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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:37 pm 
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Im looking for some old growth qtr sawn braz bridge blanks? Anyone have any or know of a seller? No Stump wood lol

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 7:06 pm 
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Search ebay. There are a lot listed.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:08 am 
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Allied may still have some of Walter Lipton’s old stock.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:07 pm 
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I search eBay regularly for Brazilian rosewood. I do occasionally see worthwhile offerings, but.......
The most popular misapplied buzzwords are 'old growth', unfortunately. Pricing varies from reasonable to stratospheric, and there are downright fraudulent listings...those by 'film4' being the most notorious.

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Agreed. I have a saved search on eBay for Brazilian rosewood and get a daily email with search results. It’s amazing how much “genuine premium old growth” there is out there. :D


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:21 pm 
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I have some I got from Hank Manuel years ago - they were about 30 years old at that time

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:47 pm 
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John,

I crack up at some of the stump wood being sold on eBay as old growth qtr sawn 6A lol

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:12 pm 
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The majority of the stumpwood BR is old growth. Much of it is even quartered, because it was cut for instruments. The issue is the twisted, wavy grain that is typical of the stump area. Stability and strength will suffer.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:54 pm 
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Just out of curiosity, what would be a reasonable price for a Brazilian fb blank, and a braz bridge blank, if reasonable quality?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:18 pm 
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I think $20 for bridge blanks and $60 for fingerboards is reasonable for good material. I have sold mostly new growth with straight grain that is quartered or rift.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:02 am 
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Wow, that’s not much more than I pay for ebony! A buddy of mine sells them for 150/500…


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Brad,
I have a box of bridge blanks that I haven't really gone through for a long time. If John Ressler doesn't have what you want, let me know.
Most of mine I have had for 15 years, not sure I would let the better ones go for John Arnolds price as that is low end. I haven't paid $60 for a quality fingerboard for several years.
I have sold Madagascar ebony boards for $50 and have multiple people asking for more. Gaboon fetches $35 I agree with Ed on that one.
Color and quality do vary with Brazilian.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 9:30 pm 
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Honestly, a lot of the stump wood is old growth, it just wasn't harvested and has sat for years while the easier and straighter grained wood was harvested and sold.
Old Growth, stump wood and the wood left higher up from the ground are just sales descriptions. I have more than one set that are perfect, straight and quartered that had a stump under them at one point. I think a lot of people envision stump wood as being close to or under the ground with wild grain and that is not necessarily true. The newer growth I see comes from smaller trees and is rarely 1/4d for a big acoustic set.
That's just my $.02.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:23 am 
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Wow, that’s not much more than I pay for ebony! A buddy of mine sells them for 150/500…


At that rate, I need to rethink my retirement plan! Before the CITES ban, I cut hundreds of guitar sets from logs and boards, and I still have a serious pile of offcuts. Add to that the fact that I rarely use rosewood for fingerboards, and have not built a guitar with a rosewood bridge for the last 35+ years. I do use it for repair, but most of my repair work these days is on prewar Martins which are mostly ebony.
However, I did just replace the bridge on a 1965 D-18 for the original owner who is approaching 90 years old. Dark chocolate, new growth.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:49 am 
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That is why we went through BRW bridge blanks at Greenridge, plus a few commissions that called for BRW on bridge or on both bridge and fretboard. There are a fair number of post-ebony, but pre-IRW bridge bridge replacements waiting to be accomplished on those poor butchered/flat-topped/neck reset-delayed guitars. When I was over last, the boys were pulling a 6-1/2" x 1-3/4" replacement IRW bridge off of a mid-1950's D-21. The top damage the bridge supposedly was covering did not warrant that oversized replacement, but not unusual to see that sort of repair on guitars coming in for a long-delayed reckoning.

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I have several planks full of them, but I'm not the least bit interested at this point in cutting into them!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:04 am 
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I visited Allied Lutherie last month to get some wood resawn and they had quite a large pile of Brazilian boards in all sizes from buying up retired luthier's stashes. Not sure if they have them listed on their site but it might be worth a call to see if they'd cut some up for you.



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