Official Luthiers Forum!

Solely owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:34 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:12 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 618
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I have posted this here for anyone interested. JWardle81 had asked if anyone has a binding jig for sale and my suggestion was that he build one. For me the tool construction is as fun as the guitars, especially when it works as well as this. I chose to use the glider hinges from Lee Valley for the parallelogram as they are perfect for this purpose, they have bearings and are reasonably priced. One could make their own from metal or wood scraps. I use a porter cable trim router and a 1/4" spiral downcut carbide bit. It is infinitely adjustable with the router base guide I found on Ebay. The one I got was a stanley but Sears,Rockwell and others make similar parts.

Parts list;
20" drawer slide $15.00
Lazy susan bearing $12.00 http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/pa ... 13&p=44042
Glider chair hardware Lee Valley $12.50 http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/pa ... at=3,50659
Pair of utility springs home depot $4.00
Plywood scraps
Router base guide from Ebay $20.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-STANLEY-TOO ... 589697296a


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:42 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:20 pm
Posts: 39
First name: Dean
Last Name: Coss
City: Greenville
State: SC
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Dude, you rock! Thanks for sharing the info!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:35 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:27 pm
Posts: 633
Location: United States
Do you have any pictures of the unit in action?
I would love to see how that guide works.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:31 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 618
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Here is the only pic I have of it operating. Also note that the guitar is in a holding jig, also on a turntable.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:55 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:27 pm
Posts: 633
Location: United States
Thanks.
I took your lead and scarfed up the last of those NOS router base guides. Then after paying, I realized I would alway need to register the router perpendicular to the suface being routed. Which makes the williams jig a little obsolete.
But with a spinning guitar in a guide it should work fine.

I could never get mine to do a perfect rebate all the way around anyhow.
So with the guide, my method won't change much.

Dave


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:50 pm 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Sun May 11, 2014 7:57 pm
Posts: 52
First name: Jimmy
Last Name: Wardle
Brian,

Thank you! This is really great!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:20 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 618
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Dave, I messed around for awhile to make everything work. The guitar needs to be levelled as close as possible prior to cutting the channels. The sides should be close to plumb.This is easy with the holding jig. I will try and take a pic tomorrow. Also you need a radiused taper on the router base so that the base only registers on the outer edge of the top or back so that it is not effected by the dome. Hope this makes sense.

B

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:38 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:20 pm
Posts: 39
First name: Dean
Last Name: Coss
City: Greenville
State: SC
Country: USA
Focus: Build
When you say that the guitar is also on a turntable, are you saying that there is another lazy susan bearing under the guitar?

Bri wrote:
Here is the only pic I have of it operating. Also note that the guitar is in a holding jig, also on a turntable.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:11 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 10:22 am
Posts: 618
First name: Brian
Last Name: McDonald
City: Okanagan Centre
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V4V2H6
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Tried to make and post a video, but making stuff on a computer is not easy for idjuts.
Here is another pic, the guitar top is level, and the jig rotates, the router follows the contour with a light pressure. With no hand pressure the router lifts away. I attempt to keep the router square to the body as the guitar rotates.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
My memory is so good, sometimes I remember things that never happened.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 9 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com