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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:03 pm 
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I decided that in lieu of taking dozens and dozens of pictures and typing my thoughts that it's much easier and quicker to do videos.

I am doing this repair for a few reasons. The first of which is to begin my quest to reduce the amount of "hackery" repairs that happen all the time in the instrument repair business. I don't dwell on explaining things too long since I feel that people learn best when they are not presented with dozens and dozens of options with 1-2 hours worth of explanation to go with it. People sometimes just need a short and simple method to reach an end goal and that's what I'm hoping to do.

There are other ways to do what I will be doing in this series but for you guys on here I'm sure it's all basic but I'm hoping that it will attract folks who are of the mindset to learn how to not be a hack when it comes to these things.

I realize that it won't eliminate all forms of hackery but I decided that instead of just complaining on the internet about hack jobs that I should pony up and do something about it. It might also help inform people of what exactly is needed to do good repairs and hopefully encourage them to seek skilled work when they need it.

Any thoughts to add feel free, also if there are any repair techniques that you think should be covered feel free as well.




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:36 pm 
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Cool. Can't wait to see more episodes.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:45 pm 
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Thanks Dan. Also looking forward to it. My only very minor suggestion is to put all the vid's somewhere (your web site?) where they can be referenced and looked at in sequence or individually.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:44 am 
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I'm looking forward to seeing how you deal with this one.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:32 am 
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Definitely a worthwhile project. Can't wait to see the outcome.

Regarding hack work - folks with an eye for detail and the desire to do things right are far too careful to ever produce hack work, regardless of their level of experience. Hopefully some people matching that description will learn from this thread. Those who are prone to hackery lack the patience to learn to do something right or think things through, and therefore will remain hacks. We can't save the world. The best we can hope for is to save a few guitars.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:44 am 
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Part 2 is up. Alot of what I talk about is noob stuff so if you're bored I apologize. The back came off really easily since the glue just disintegrated as I worked through it.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:35 am 
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Awesome mud dauber wasp nest in there. Nothing like a wasps nest to give it that true vintage tone. ;)

But it probably explains the customer complaint of "guitar making buzzing sound... Sounds like bees are in it....."


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:52 pm 
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Nice videos. I like the old guitars where the back is already coming off, makes it easy. Of course that usually means half the braces are coming off too.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:35 am 
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SteveSmith wrote:
Nice videos. I like the old guitars where the back is already coming off, makes it easy. Of course that usually means half the braces are coming off too.


Indeed, that is the case with this one. Just about every glue joint was coming apart save for the neck. The dovetail was just just too poorly to have good glue contact. They had plenty of glue in the joint, just no wood to wood contact to make it last.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:20 am 
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Neck removal with no tools! That was an interesting prospect. I didn't expect it to have a dovetail (albeit badly cut) The fingerboard popped off with a little effort and you can see the little glue line that they used, I guess a single streak of hide glue was enough to count as a good solid glue joint.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:23 am 
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That old glue can get all crumbly (is that a word?) - a mixed blessing for sure. Thanks for the videos, I love to see how others approach things.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:44 am 
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Part 5 and this time we deal with the bridge plate. Some steps and some missteps along the way. But this is meant to be fun and if you can't have fun then what's the point of work?

I went with a slightly diagonal approach to the grain for the plate. I didn't have a piece of maple wide enough to do completely parallel grain, just had to work with what I have. on a side note I have been becoming more a fan of wooden bodied planes for everyday tasks, no reason why I just like them better.

I decided to not delve into the entire "parallel grain vs. horizontal grain" debate and just make a replacement plate. Sometimes it's better to just not debate certain things and just let it be.

The holes in the top will be patched later on. The bridge plate covers such a large surface area that I wasn't too concerned about getting maximum glue potential since even just upgraded to the maple plate will already give a better result. Plus this isn't meant to be an exhaustive repair blog as there's things I'm doing off camera that I don't bother to explain since I'd just be repeating myself.

Here is the video:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:00 pm 
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Is that a molded bakelite bridge I see there? Looks like ebony at first... Then I notice it is hollow and it screws to the top.... Fine quality these old guitars.... No expense spared!

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