Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:04 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:14 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Posts: 870
Location: Cowichan Valley, BC, Canada
First name: Conor
Last Name: Searl
City: Duncan
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V9L 2E5
Country: Canada
Status: Semi-pro
I've got a telecaster in for some fret work and a set up. It has an intonated Glendale bridge with steel saddles. The height adjuster screws are more seized than I've ever seen before. I managed to get the screws out by sacrificing them with a pair of vice grips aiming to replace them after the fact, but it seems the corrosion has ruined or blocked the threads inside the saddles. I gave the saddles a rust bath and let them soak in wd-40 and I was able to get a new screw through a few of the height adjusting holes, but the E, A, and D holes seem still blocked. Any other tips on loosening up the corrosion inside these saddles, or is it time to replace the saddles?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:34 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:28 pm
Posts: 192
First name: Chuck
Last Name: Skarsaune
City: Butler
State: TN
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Chase the threads with a tap. Measure the extracted screws to check the size.



These users thanked the author Skarsaune for the post: windsurfer (Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:10 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:09 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am
Posts: 5815
First name: Chris
Last Name: Pile
City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: Good old US of A
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Soak in molasses. Eats the corrosion. Then rinse off and dry. When you install the new screws use Chapstick or wax to keep them from getting stuck again.

_________________
"Act your age, not your shoe size" - Prince



These users thanked the author Chris Pile for the post: Conor_Searl (Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:59 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 1:01 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:46 pm
Posts: 2149
First name: Freeman
Last Name: Keller
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Conor, Glendale is very much in business and sells replacement saddles in a variety of configurations (they are dang expensive). Why not just get the old ones out and replace them? My feeling that trying to retap threads in something that requires smooth adjustment is just asking for trouble.

https://glendaleguitars.com/saddles/



These users thanked the author Freeman for the post: Conor_Searl (Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:00 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:02 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Posts: 870
Location: Cowichan Valley, BC, Canada
First name: Conor
Last Name: Searl
City: Duncan
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V9L 2E5
Country: Canada
Status: Semi-pro
Freeman wrote:
Conor, Glendale is very much in business and sells replacement saddles in a variety of configurations (they are dang expensive). Why not just get the old ones out and replace them? My feeling that trying to retap threads in something that requires smooth adjustment is just asking for trouble.

https://glendaleguitars.com/saddles/


Yeah I touched base with them. They do indeed sell replacements, although not the highly polished steel ones that are on this bridge. But the shipping to Canada is shocking and has inspired me to try my darndest before replacing them.

I soaked them for a second night, used brand new screws and a heap of chapstick lubrication, working slowly I got them loose and moving again.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:05 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:46 pm
Posts: 2149
First name: Freeman
Last Name: Keller
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I put a Glendale bridge on one of my barn casters at the request of the guy who was getting it. Seemed like a nice bridge, I'm not sure I believe all the hype about the different saddle materials however. I would definitely chase all the threads before you put it back together.

If the saddles were that corroded how is the rest of the guitar (pups and pots and everything else metal)



These users thanked the author Freeman for the post: Conor_Searl (Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:43 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:56 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:04 am
Posts: 5815
First name: Chris
Last Name: Pile
City: Wichita
State: Kansas
Country: Good old US of A
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
I guess you could also try an ultrasonic cleaner.... I have one that was used by draftsmen to clean their pens. Holds about a cup and half of whatever cleaning fluid is needed, and is good for filthy hardware and so on. Works like a champ on grimy tune-a-matics.

_________________
"Act your age, not your shoe size" - Prince



These users thanked the author Chris Pile for the post: Conor_Searl (Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:43 pm)
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:54 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Posts: 870
Location: Cowichan Valley, BC, Canada
First name: Conor
Last Name: Searl
City: Duncan
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V9L 2E5
Country: Canada
Status: Semi-pro
Freeman wrote:
I put a Glendale bridge on one of my barn casters at the request of the guy who was getting it. Seemed like a nice bridge, I'm not sure I believe all the hype about the different saddle materials however. I would definitely chase all the threads before you put it back together.

If the saddles were that corroded how is the rest of the guitar (pups and pots and everything else metal)


Yeah everything else is okay. I've cleaned all the electronics and done everything else one would do when setting a guitar up. No real problems other than the seized saddles, which are great now.

The bridge is definitely nice. I'd say it transfers energy well. As far as different saddle materials go I have to say the mojo my eyes hear when they see brass saddles on a Tele cannot be understated. :D (Honestly though, I do hear differences)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 10:55 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:09 pm
Posts: 870
Location: Cowichan Valley, BC, Canada
First name: Conor
Last Name: Searl
City: Duncan
State: British Columbia
Zip/Postal Code: V9L 2E5
Country: Canada
Status: Semi-pro
Chris Pile wrote:
I guess you could also try an ultrasonic cleaner.... I have one that was used by draftsmen to clean their pens. Holds about a cup and half of whatever cleaning fluid is needed, and is good for filthy hardware and so on. Works like a champ on grimy tune-a-matics.


My next step was molasses, if that didn't work I was going to try electrolysis. There's a great Stew Mac trade secret showing that one.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:00 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 am
Posts: 518
Location: St. Charles MO
First name: Karl
Last Name: Borum
State: MO
Zip/Postal Code: 63303
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
For someone in the future:
Kroil is the best penetrating oil:
http://www.kanolabs.com/

_________________
Measure Twice,

Karl Borum


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:05 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:06 pm
Posts: 414
First name: Allan
Last Name: Bacon
State: Kansas
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Conor_Searl wrote:
My next step was molasses, if that didn't work I was going to try electrolysis. There's a great Stew Mac trade secret showing that one.


I've used electrolysis on rusted plane blades with great results.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com