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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:18 pm 
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hi all
does anyone know how Santos Hernandez braced his classical guitars,
outlines, drawings or plans anywhere?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:26 pm 
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I wondered about this myself. So far I didnt see any info on the internet. But I imagine it has to be very similar to Torres.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:32 pm 
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hi Alex
I was just looking a your guitar on photobucket before posting this,
nice work.
Lets hope someone can point us in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:48 pm 
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Anything in Courtnal's book? Ill check my copy and get back to you. I recall seeing one or two articles on same in the GAL Big Red Books..again Ill check and get back to you with info.

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hi all
does anyone know how Santos Hernandez braced his classical guitars,
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yours George


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:57 pm 
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Many thanks Martin
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http://picasaweb.google.com/d28swdlp/UntitledAlbum02#

Here is a link to what I have in my files (too large to post on the OLF)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:20 pm 
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hi David
many thanks.
seven fan braces?
and no diagonal ones at the bottom. Mmm
That looks like it might be an original?
If so - have you any dimensions / angles particularly the fans.
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Coool pics David many thanks.

Sides are cypress, and no bottom braces, it must be more of a flamenco instead of a classical.

I will guess that the fan focal is somewhere high, 8th fret or so.
Braces are replacements? Pretty tall at least 5, maybe even 6-7mm, and 6-7 wide. The top must be very thin?

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Geordie, checking in the Courtnall book, the Santos Hernandez plan puts the center to center measurement of the line through the fans at 35mm at the Transverse Brace, and 45mm C/C at the widest part of the lower bout. The fans are 7mm wide and 3.5mm high and triangular in cross section. There is no bridge patch or, as is customary in Flamenco Guitars, closing braces. The body is 485mm long, LB = 363, UB = 274 and W = 236. Top Thickness 2.1 back 2.0. David's pictures give a pretty good look at the layout, and the plan, while it looks a little more even, is much like the picture. The only real difference I see is that in the picture the the braces seem slightly shorter than in the plan, but it could just be the way it looks.

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Thanks Waddy. 35 with 45 spacing makes for even less slanted braces, even more flamenco. Similar to a Barbero where they are close to being parallel.

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Courtnall's book has a chapter on S. Hernandez.....pages 50 through to 60. His bracing is fairly simple - 7 fan braces 3.5mm x 7mm. Upper and lower cross brace (17 x 7mm) and 20 x 1.5mm patches either side of sound hole. No UTB, upper bout patch or bridge patch.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:40 am 
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Geordie, David Dyke (Luthiers Supplies) lists a Santos Hernandez plan on his website.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:11 am 
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hey all
Martin, David, Waddy, Colin thanks for your input.
As always yer a great bunch sharing your information and knowledge.
Hope can return the favour (somehow) sometime.
Best wishes
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