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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:34 pm 
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I'm considering giving them a whirl. Anyone tried them? Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:52 pm 
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I haven't used them yet, but I'm anxious to hear if anyone has. I've been eyeing them myself for a near future build. They really are nice looking.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:10 pm 
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They sure look nice, I would consider if they had .250" shafts. That way I could use a standard 1/4" bushing reamer.

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Swiss designed, but does anyone know where they are made? They do look nice.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:28 pm 
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Too Euro for me.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:46 pm 
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I saw these the other day and can't decide if I like the look or not. They do have the apperance of nice tuners though.
Awaiting reviews of em.

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18/1 ratio.
that's good for me.
i like the gotoh 510's, i think they're 18/1.
i pick up gits i built before with the schaller ratio, and i don't likey.
edit: i think i might have the 21/1 ratio.
highly recommended!
modern looking, but work nice.
my default tuners, for now.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:33 pm 
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What I can't figure out is why the weigh so much. 221g while Waverlys with ebony knobs are 133g. Think I'll send them an email. I'd give them a try if that's a typo.

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Kent Chasson wrote:
What I can't figure out is why the weigh so much. 221g while Waverlys with ebony knobs are 133g. Think I'll send them an email. I'd give them a try if that's a typo.


It's got to be a typo. Cast aluminum bases have to be lighter than the steel ones. Ebony knobs are probably a bit lighter than the steel ones. Heck 221 grams is almost as heavy as full size Gotoh 510's with metal buttons. I'd be shocked if they weigh that much. And then yes that would be a deal breaker. Report back on what you find out Ken. If that is a typo I'm gonna order a set as well.

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I really like the look of those.

221 grams... so like 3 pounds in tuners? I cant see that either for those.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:37 pm 
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They remind me of a kitchen tool from IKEA. Think I'll hold off.

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Could it be that they are only 36g per tuner? That would be super!

I'm not digging the look so much....

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they look nice. Not sure about the weight though. I would need 3 on a plate for my slot heads for sure....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:16 am 
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Haans wrote:
Too Euro for me.


That's exactly what would appeal to me, I like to work in metric, plus Waverly's etc are rather over fancy and tend towards the 'bling' style for my Euro aesthetics. My current favourites are from the German company Rubner.

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They're really well made, IMHO very much influenced by Nicolo Alessi, but of course much more affordable. Designed in Switzerland, no word of where they're made on the box but at this price it's a steal. Difference with Waverlies is bigger footprint, aluminum base and a brass gear (instead of bronze for Waverlies). Weight with ferrule is 27g.
Design is a matter of taste, personally I love it (do I qualify as Euro since I've been living in the US since the end of the last millennium?). I find the larger ebony button easier to turn than the equivalent Waverlies.

EDIT: hole diameter should be .395"


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:25 am 
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Laurent Brondel wrote:
....Difference with Waverlies is bigger footprint, aluminum base and a brass gear (instead of bronze for Waverlies). .... I find the larger ebony button easier to turn than the equivalent Waverlies.
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Greetings, Laurent...

Are you saying the baseplate footprint of the Schertler is larger than the Waverly? Just clarifying for my addled coffee-deprived brain.

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Thanks Laurent. That's lighter than my standard Schaller minis with ebony so I'll give them a try.

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Thanks for the info Laurent.

I just ordered a set to try out.

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Designed in Switzerland, no word of where they're made on the box but at this price it's a steal.

When I bought some sets, in the box were a "strange" little document, like a customhouse text, that let me think it is made in Korea.

They are excellent tuners, very light, smooth and with a much modern look that I much prefer than the waverly's classic look :mrgreen:
I used them both for electric an classical guitars with the same satisfaction.

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They look a lot better on guitar than off imo.

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John: Looks may take a while to get use to but think I'd use these before Waverlies. I think they are better engineered. Let us know what you think.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:48 am 
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Laurent Brondel wrote:
do I qualify as Euro since I've been living in the US since the end of the last millennium?)


You live in west Paris. Of course you are still Euro. You could also pass for Québécois, since none of us can tell the difference in your French, and Maine is almost the same place from this distance.

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Jim Watts wrote:
I saw these the other day and can't decide if I like the look or not..........................................................................................................


I can't decide about the look either. I wonder where they came up with 221 grams for weight? Maybe that's the weight of the tuners, and the box they come in..........or they come in sets of 8.

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221g/6 = 36.83g. Looks like the shipping weight with the box.

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Howard Klepper wrote:
Laurent Brondel wrote:
do I qualify as Euro since I've been living in the US since the end of the last millennium?)
You live in west Paris. Of course you are still Euro. You could also pass for Québécois, since none of us can tell the difference in your French, and Maine is almost the same place from this distance.
And I was making every effort to fully inegrate…

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