Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Aug 02, 2025 1:31 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Finish Durability
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:00 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:48 pm
Posts: 130
Location: Bellingham, WA
First name: George
Last Name: Thomas
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Hi:

Has anyone done hardness comparisons or seen any tests between nitro and Ubeaut Hard Shellac? Any guesses which will hold up better with skin oils and abrasion? Thanks.

_________________
GEO
perpetual beginner


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Finish Durability
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:30 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:56 am
Posts: 1825
Location: Grover NC
First name: Woodrow
Last Name: Brackett
City: Grover
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 28073
Country: USA
Focus: Build
I think there's alot of speculation on U-Beaut, but that's about it. I believe most people are waiting for someone else to try it. Anyway, I can't answer your question, but my post will put your thread back toward the top.

_________________
I didn't mean to say it, but I meant what I said.
http://www.brackettinstruments.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Finish Durability
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:36 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:13 am
Posts: 1168
Location: United States
State: Texas
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
Either send me a bottle, or $50 to buy it, and I'll give you a hard opinion! ;)

_________________
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008907949110


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Finish Durability
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:45 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:59 pm
Posts: 3622
First name: Dennis
Last Name: Kincheloe
City: Kansas City
State: MO
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
woody b wrote:
I think there's alot of speculation on U-Beaut, but that's about it. I believe most people are waiting for someone else to try it.

Yep, that seems to be the case :) I'm tempted to try it on my next one though. Anyone want to send me a jar with a guitar's worth in it for guinea-pigging :mrgreen: ? Almost $50 a bottle is a pretty big investment, and is the shelf life long enough for me to finish 8 guitars?

One of my main concerns is repairability. According to the description on LMI, you have to wash your pad immediately after using or it will harden and become unusable. Sounds like the plasticizer prevents re-melting the shellac later, i.e. repairs would only build a new layer on top rather than blending into the existing coat. But I guess if it's tough enough, it would never be needed anyway. Plus the new layer would probably adhere to the old just fine, and might not cause any visual problems.

On the other hand, I think a regular FP is fine for guitars I'll be keeping myself at least. It doesn't feel super delicate or anything, just super thin so it will likely wear through quicker than nitro. In fact, I may not even retouch it if it does wear through on the bindings and/or neck, as the worn areas would likely be well burnished by then, and the neck might get that old hand oil-rubbed feel to it like wooden handrails get sometimes, which I think would be awesome :)
...but if I'm not retouching anyway, that means the hard shellac should be fine for me to use too, so I should still give it a try.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Durero and 26 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com