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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:49 pm 
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Anyone know where I can get 1/16" black plastic side dot material at large quantities?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:03 pm 
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Well, Stewmac sells it in 6" lengths, with a significant discount for 24+ pieces (which is a heck of a lot of side dots!)
I expect they'd do better if you wanted a lot more.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:17 pm 
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I want to buy wholesale, not retail, if I can find it...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:10 am 
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I've purchased plastic dowel rods before, though I don't remember where. I know that might not be as helpful as you would like but the fact is that they are out there to be found. I was originally planning on using it for something else, but I remember them being pretty darn cheap, and I would think the 1/16" variety would be really cheap because they aren't giving you much plastic at all. Internet search, they are out there. Good luck, and maybe re-post a link on this thread when you find them.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:34 pm 
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I've got a whole spool of it. I haven't used it in awhile, so I can't recall if it's 1/16" or if it's 2mm, but if you're interested in actual wholesale quantities of the stuff then get in touch and we can figure something out.

McMaster has ECTFE in cord form pretty cheap, but if you're planning on using it for side dots I'd worry about using Teflon's baby brother :)

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:50 pm 
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Black is easy. I use nylon Weed Eater line.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:41 am 
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To John, way to think outside the box,well done. I love creativity and after all necessity is the mother of invention.

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There are also green, white and red weedeater lines that I've seen at our local hardware store. There is even one that is in the shape of an asterisk for improved eating of weeds. If you were using an ebony binding you could drill the hole the diameter of the asterisk points, glue in place then fill with black (insert your favorite filler material), level and... voila...asterisk side markers. wow7-eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:16 pm 
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Weedwhacker line. Genius.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:00 pm 
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As far as outside the box thinking goes, how would something like copper wire work for a side dot?

Or even brass or nickel for that matter.

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I have used brass wire. Works great. Taylor used (or uses) aluminum wire on the dark bindings.
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There are also green, white and red weedeater lines that I've seen at our local hardware store.

The white is usually translucent, which can look dingy when installed in a black fingerboard. BTW, I bought a similar product from Stew Mac years ago, and since I had already experienced the problem, I sent it back.
I do have some 0.08" cream-colored line that is very nice for dark bindings. It is especially useful for Gibson type guitars, or when the user thinks the 1/16" dots are too small. I have also used the red and green on white or ivoroid bindings.
The only problem with nylon is that it is tough to trim flush. A single-edge razor blade is the ticket. I sand it with 220 to roughen the surface by pulling it through folded sandpaper. I install it with CA and cut it proud with fret nippers. The nippers mushroom the end, but a trim with a chisel or razor blade will restore the cylindrical shape, allowing you to continue installing dots.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:54 pm 
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How about the fiberglass that's really reflective and bright like on daytime sights for pistols? Might be pricey but you would never lose sight of the side dots that's for sure.

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I use #18 copper wire available at ace hardware or similiar sized wire in silver color


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I just used 16 ga (1/16" dia) brass finishing nails today for side dots. Worked perfect. 3 nails does all the side dots with double at the 12th fret.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:17 am 
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How about spaghetti?? Would make all those free tomatoes people keep throw'in on the stage useful.

P.S. Nice dots Rod 8-)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:10 am 
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Shameful waste that Filippo!!! An inch is near wide enough to run a herd of lasagne....of course fencing is more of an issue but there's a lot more money in em in the 'long' run ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:31 pm 
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Very timely thread. I've been struggling with what to do about my side markers, and I'm going to try John's great idea [:Y:]


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