Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Mon Aug 11, 2025 4:36 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:28 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:58 pm
Posts: 316
Well, I'm having some bothersome issues with some water-based Stew-Mac Color Tone water-based lacquer that I bought a little over a year ago (14 mos). I had heard that this stuff has a limited shelf life, but I tried to spray it yesterday, and after getting strange splotching, leveled back to ground zero, and tried to brush on some today to see if it's the product, or my spray equipment. Both methods produced a splotchy finish. The spray left thousands of tiny round indentations (lack of adherance?). Brushing today did pretty much the same. I'm concuding that it's NOT oil or contaminants in my spray equipment, but that the product has reached it's shelf life.

Strangely enough, I had no problem using the seal coat that was purchased at the same time (if I recall correctly), and I got a good 12-coat base established with it. But I'm working backwards on the finish coat, and am going to have to sand back through this material a second time - double bummer :(

Does it sound like my diagnosis of spoiled milk (what the stuff looks like, actually) is indeed correct?

Thanks for any advice, suggestions, support, empathy...

_________________
Ken Mitchell
Durham, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:32 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:59 am
Posts: 1964
Location: Rochester Michigan
I don't know the answer but am curious to whether the container had ever been opened. I've got about a 12 to 14 month old can of EM6000 sitting in my basement too.

If you hear back from somewhere else, please post back here with your results.

I do sort of remember hearing that if it's never been opened, you should be ok (or it's just wishful thinking on my part)

_________________
http://www.birkonium.com CNC Products for Luthiers
http://banduramaker.blogspot.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:46 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:58 pm
Posts: 316
Andy,

Yes, the can (1 gal) HAD been opened, but so had the sealer, which was fine. Maybe the sealer remained good b/c it was stored in a Ball/Mason jar, with a very good seal? IF so, maybe once opened, we should transfer to smaller containers (?), or other very air-tight containers(?).

I'm sure others will chime in and offer other info or suggestions.

_________________
Ken Mitchell
Durham, NC


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:51 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:40 pm
Posts: 505
First name: David
Last Name: Malicky
City: San Diego
State: CA
Zip/Postal Code: 92111
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Some posts from the Target Coatings forum...
http://www.targetcoatings.com/forum/vie ... shelf+life
http://www.targetcoatings.com/forum/vie ... shelf+life
So, official word is 12-18 months on average. But, I have some EM6000 that's 2.5 years old and it still seems fine for both color and curing.

Maybe post the symptoms you're finding on their forum?

_________________
David Malicky


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:39 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:44 am
Posts: 1005
Location: SE Michigan
First name: Kenneth
Last Name: Casper
City: Northville
State: MI
Country: U.S.A
Focus: Build
Ken, one of the first things to go with em6000 is its adhesion properties. I find if the stuff has been around longer than six months, it is much more prone to fisheyes and burn in issues.

Ken

_________________
http://www.casperguitar.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 40 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com