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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:50 am 
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JustinNorth wrote:
Thanks again, Clay. I think I saw a few #4's and #5's used on eBay. I'll grab one and get to work.

When thicknessing the top by hand like this, do most people install the rosette before or after? I don't have a good circle/rosette cutter, but my birthday is coming up and the only things on my wish list are all woodworking tools and the circle cutter from LMI is one of them.


Typically before final thicknessing.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:52 am 
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Thanks Clay. Am I remembering correctly that you are in the Southeast as well? I'm in Chattanooga.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:42 am 
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Hi Justin,
I am in the north east corner of Maryland. Just below the Mason Dixon line.
I forgot you mentioned having a #3 plane. That will work to thickness the sides and plates.
I like to lightly plane both sides of the top to select the side I want to show, sand that side smooth and install the rosette, then plane and sand the back to final thickness. That way if you go a little deep with the rosette channel you still have some wood that you can remove from the show face and not make the top too thin.
If you don't have a laminate trimmer that might be a good thing to buy instead of the circle cutter. You can make a simple jig for cutting circles with a router and use it for numerous other guitar building tasks. You can buy one for about the same price as that circle cutter.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:38 am 
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Thanks for the advice. I do not have a laminate cutter, but I'll look into getting one. I have a block plane that I used to prep the top and back plates for joining, but I'm guessing that's a little too small for the thicknessing.

I think the next project for me will be to build a decent workbench. I've been working on a piece of plywood laid across a pair of saw horses.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:50 pm 
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JustinNorth wrote:
Thanks Clay. Am I remembering correctly that you are in the Southeast as well? I'm in Chattanooga.


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I'm just north of Knoxville. For your first, you said OO Martin or Gibson? John Arnold, & John Hall have very nice detailed tracings of prewar OO Martin guitars. Get one and try to duplicate that tracing. You will have a pretty good to excellent guitar.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:13 pm 
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Clinch,

You're the person I was thinking of who lives near by! It's a Martin OO and the template I have for the top is one of the acrylic ones sold by Waldron Music. Do you think I still need to buy one of Mr. Arnold or Mr. Hall's tracings? I'm really trying to take my time with things and get it right. Currently I need to get my hands on the necessary tool(s) to cut out the rosette and then I'll start to thickness the top. I'm a little worried about thicknessing by hand because I'm using Western Red Cedar for the top. I also need to get to a friend or family members house to use their table saw to cut the Sitka brace wood I got from RC Tonewoods.


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JustinNorth wrote:
Clinch,

You're the person I was thinking of who lives near by! It's a Martin OO and the template I have for the top is one of the acrylic ones sold by Waldron Music. Do you think I still need to buy one of Mr. Arnold or Mr. Hall's tracings? I'm really trying to take my time with things and get it right. Currently I need to get my hands on the necessary tool(s) to cut out the rosette and then I'll start to thickness the top. I'm a little worried about thicknessing by hand because I'm using Western Red Cedar for the top. I also need to get to a friend or family members house to use their table saw to cut the Sitka brace wood I got from RC Tonewoods.


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Waldron templates are great make your mold from that, but the tracings are really affordable and have top thickness, brace sizing, location, (scalloping) bridge plate thickness just like the pre-war guitar they were taken from. Answers a lot of questions. I'm working on a O-18, Deep-body Black Locust Herringbone OO, 1936 GIbson AJ and a couple more 13 fret 1937 Gibson Nick Lucas specials.
Here is the OO Top, Red Spruce from Ted Davis's stash, Red Spruce bracing and a black locust bridge plate,


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:40 pm 
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Thanks Clinch. I'll grab the plans and move forward from there.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:01 pm 
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Clinchriver wrote:
John Arnold, & John Hall have very nice detailed tracings of prewar OO Martin guitars. Get one and try to duplicate that tracing. You will have a pretty good to excellent guitar.


I searched and searched and I can't find anywhere to buy these tracings. Can you help me out? Where do I find these?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:13 am 
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JustinNorth wrote:
Clinchriver wrote:
John Arnold, & John Hall have very nice detailed tracings of prewar OO Martin guitars. Get one and try to duplicate that tracing. You will have a pretty good to excellent guitar.


I searched and searched and I can't find anywhere to buy these tracings. Can you help me out? Where do I find these?


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Both are members here, send them a pm. John Hall is Blues Creek Guitars google that.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 6:44 am 
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I did. I was familiar with Blues Creek before I joined, but didn't see the plans on his website.

I'll send him a PM.


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