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Ken Mitchell
 Post subject: After Menzerna
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:05 pm 
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What are folks using after Menzerna Fine and Extra-Fine? I have a variety of products, but can't quite figure out where to go after buffing.

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I use finesse it a 3M product and maquires swirl remover.

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3M finesse-it is the bomb bomb bomb!!! (That's a triple). I love it so much I bought a gallon, about $125. That's how much I love it.

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Ken Mitchell
 Post subject: Re: After Menzerna
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Are you guys using a buffing wheel and a portable drill, or are you working by hand? If by hand, what type of pad do you use?

Thanx for the input,
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buffing wheel for me

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Air powered mini buffer, an automotive product similar to a standard electric drill except very small and very fast turning.

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 Post subject: Re: After Menzerna
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I've been killing myself doing this by hand, and HAVE to move on from that!!@#$ I've got an arbor and large buffing wheels for the Menzerna steps. From there I'd like to move inside (from the shop) and use something smaller. I'd picture going to a mini-buffer, and a 3-1/4 or 5" wheel (I guess). What kind of wheel are you guys using? foam? wool? what works best with the liquid 3M products?

As for the 3M products themselves, I love them! I'm just killing my arms and hands doing this manually :(

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Extra fine seems like overkill to me. After sanding to 1200 or 1500 grit, I take it to the wheel with medium, then sometimes fine, but even fine seems like it's not necessary. I then use Novus 1 wiped on with an old t-shirt.
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I use a little maybe 3" yellow foam mop/wheel thingy in my mini buffer. It goes maybe 4 instruments and then needs to be replaced, it just velcros on so its no big deal...

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Sorry, kind of off topic, but what do people think of using the angle grinder type buffers instead of a proper fixed buffing wheel? Is it possible to get good results?

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My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond.

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Tai Fu wrote:
My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond.


I don't mean to speak on behalf of PeterF, but I believe he is talking about the buffing machines used in the automotive business, which kind of look like an angle grinder, but spin at a much slower speed.
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I have seen videos of Fender using them... but I think they are designed for liquid compound rather than buffing sticks.

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warmong wrote:
Tai Fu wrote:
My concern is those angle grinder spins way too fast, unless you were buffing polyester or glass it would burn through lacquer in a millisecond.


I don't mean to speak on behalf of PeterF, but I believe he is talking about the buffing machines used in the automotive business, which kind of look like an angle grinder, but spin at a much slower speed.

I was talking about something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301113160823? ... EBIDX%3AIT
I've never done any power buffing before and don't really have a clue. I'd be using it on varnish, not lacquer. Don't know if that would make a difference. I just can't afford a full buffing wheel setup right now and am looking into alternatives.

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