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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:00 pm 
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My 10-20 Performax does a good job but the drum has begun to vibrate from too much dust inside the drum. I attach a shop-vac to it when in use but much of the dust still winds up inside the drum. The drum case does not leave much room to get a vacuum attachment inside for cleaning. Is there a way that others hear handle this? I may have to tip it on end to shake out the dust but the sander is about 100 pounds and am hoping there is another way. Maybe a 1" flexible hose taped to the vacuum to run through the center of the drum?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:31 pm 
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Michael I take one of those disposal acid brushes and bend it and move it around inside the fins of each side of the drum as I keep my Festool vac hose in the area too. Simply rotating the drum too with the hose as close as you can get it removes much of the dust too but the brush gets nearly all of it.

You have to knock it loose and then it vacs out.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:34 pm 
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Hesh wrote:
Michael I take one of those disposal acid brushes and bend it and move it around inside the fins of each side of the drum as I keep my Festool vac hose in the area too. Simply rotating the drum too with the hose as close as you can get it removes much of the dust too but the brush gets nearly all of it.

You have to knock it loose and then it vacs out.


Yep, I'll do something similar, but I use the little tool that pets the paper clamps back for quick maintenance.

For a deep cleaning, I go whole hog. I'll put the blow it out with my air compressor. I'll blow through one end of the drum, holding the vacuum hose to the other. Low PSI IS sufficient.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:41 pm 
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Air compressor here with the dust collector running. Still makes a mess but I only do it once a year.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Shop Vac (generally) is not enough air flow. Get something a bit bigger. With the 4" hose. This has added benefits in cooling. My 10-20 never clogged up. Same with my 22-44


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I have not needed to clean out the drum yet but when the time comes I plan to tip the machine on its sides.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:53 pm 
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
Shop Vac (generally) is not enough air flow. Get something a bit bigger. With the 4" hose. This has added benefits in cooling. My 10-20 never clogged up. Same with my 22-44


My Festool vac keeps the dust out of the air when I'm using it, but the dust collector where I share workspace definitely keeps it out of the drum. I think it's a very entry-level 1HP unit, too.


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Before Lowes stopped selling useful tools, they sold stuff like Delta Dust Collectors like the one below (similar). I picked one up for $200. Roll it around shop. But primary use is drum sander. These designs have large air flow. You really need something like this (or better) with a drum sander. Check Grizzly.


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We caught two Deltas that style on sale at Amazon delivered for about $200 each. They are effiecent but bag change is a PIA

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I picked up a Steel City 1HP the really works well. I'm no longer afraid to run
Padouk through my 19-38 SuperMax sander. Like Ken says, PIA to change when full.


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I use a Grizzly 1hp Canister dust collector with my 10-20 which keeps it cool and gets most of the dust.

But I still do use an air gun and shop vac on occasion to empty the dust that collects in the ends of the drum.

Do any of you have issues with the sand paper pouching out right where it enters the drum / spring clips?
It seems like I need to cut my abrasive strips shorter than the Jet/Performax spec fir this machine.

Any tips for getting the abrasive to wrap the drum really flat/ clean?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:01 pm 
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I trim our abrasive a little short and also trim the angle for clearence. I reinforce the ends with filiment tape to prevent breakage. That way you can put a defining fold at the drum entry point.

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I relieved the edge of the slots to the drum tension clips, Too acute from the factory.. Then persuade the abrasive round with a small wooden block after inserting into the clips.
Run the drum, and use a crepe block to even out the paper, then retention the abrasive.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:32 pm 
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Yes. Bag change a PITA. But, it something you don't have to do very often. Mines a delta. Works great. I'm on the lookout for a replacement. Mines long in the tooth.


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